Tomorrow, Don Fleischman has his day in court. I've written about this before: the former chairman of the Brown County Republican Party was charged with several counts of felony and misdemeanor child enticement back in February (though the incidents that led to these charges took place in 2006), but the plea hearing/sentencing for them was pushed back several times.
So it is that the timing of recent online retractions regarding posts about this subject by someone going by the name of "goofticket" seem especially strange.
If you'll remember, goofticket was the first blogger to bring the allegations and charges to light, even before any local news outlets picked up on it.
Now, though, it would appear for all the world that someone, presumably associated with Fleischman and the case, has threatened some kind of legal action against goofticket. What grounds they have for this, I don't know: pretty much all goofticket did was post publicly available information to various blogs, and call for more media scrutiny of the story.
I certainly respect this person's right to issue these statements if it's necessary to avoid lengthy and expensive (if ultimately fruitless) litigation. But it's interesting to note that this is all happening just days before the sentencing is to take place. Forum moderators where goofticket initially posted the retraction have since claimed to know that it's for real, and not a hoax, which is why I'm leaning toward there being some sort of legal threat involved. Which would be right shitty, if you ask me.
There are also some claims that certain news articles about the case have since been "scrubbed" from the internet, though I can't verify that at this time. Just a curious side-note.
In the meantime, I'll be keeping my eye out for the results of tomorrow's hearing, and any further information regarding goofticket's retractions, etc.
Monday, September 15, 2008
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Good to see it getting some coverage. Thanks for the heads up!
Ahhh... poor "Goofticket"... Wonder why he quit "running his mouth off"... All he has too do is show proof of the alleged lies and defaming of Fleischman... One would think if you post something about someone, you would have FACTS to back up your posts??? Right my liberal friends?? Or does that not apply cause you are "hiding" under a screen name on the internet???
From my understanding, the "Goofticket" is looking at a civil lawsuit... and, get this, I heard a private invest. was hired so he can be served court papers for his upcoming civil lawsuit... Yeah... I guess I would issue "retractions" too, and pray a lot... but I would NEVER "run my mouth off" about someone unless I had PROOF of what I was saying... Ahh well, he had fun for a year, and issued lots of lies and defaming statements all across the web, and therefore the country in that time period.. Should be a good lesson to learn for everyone..
"but the plea hearing/sentencing for them was pushed back several times".. Again, PLEASE get your FACTS straight!! When was the "plea/sentencing" hearing ever pushed back?? The charges had to be issued TWICE, the "victim" had to be ARRESTED AND SPEND A DAY/NIGHT in jail, AND IS OUT OF JAIL ON A $500 SIGN. BOND (THAT IS THE "VICTIM", NOT FLEISCHMAN) (public record.. www.wcca.wicourts.gov, look under the case notes)... Did ya ever think that maybe, just maybe the "victim" lied (gasp!!)??? Ahh yes, but in the liberal world, teenagers NEVER LIE OR MAKE UP STORIES do they?? Even ones who may have spent time in a juvie prison before right (The Ethan House is a "half way house" for juvie criminials, or should I say, future adult criminals?? Yes, I know this is not "defaming", but if you want to post stuff about private people in the internet, you need to make sure your FACTS are straight, or face potential lawsuits, or just pray the person does not find out I guess
Don't worry though... the "Goofticket" will have his chance in civil court to show the FACTS about everything he has written about Fleischman (although he deleted many posts, I understand copies have been printed for the upcoming case).. So why should the "Goofticket" worry?? Right Emily?? In accordance with you, he has done NOTHING wrong... Hmmmm seems strange that he would all of sudden issue "retractions" (like that makes a difference anymore) on all the web sites he has posted on... Ahh, but I guess time will tell.. I will be more than happy to keep ya all posted about his civil case... Like I typed before, this should be a good "lesson" for all bloggers.. just because you can "hide" under a screen name does NOT give you the right to lie and defame people... O... by the way Emily.. I am looking forward to your response..
Y'know, you could have posted that all as one comment, instead of leaving four in a row. Seriously, too much Red Bull tonight?
Pretty much everything that goofticket posted was fact, verifiable by the official court documents and police reports linked to in his posts. Same with mine. Fleischman gets his jury trial, and hopefully the truth will prevail, whatever it may be. Reporting, as we have done (and have expected the mainstream press to do) on publicly available documents regarding a potential case of child enticement by a political figure is legitimate and, I would argue, important. You seem to have some pent up issues about the whole thing, though, so we'll just leave it at that.
Hey Emily... check your email.. I sent you some samples of the "Goofticket" lies and defaming... He does NOT just print public facts... Sorry.. Perhaps this will "shed some light on the matter to help you see more clearly"... So, lets leave it that (as you would say)... Have a Good Day!!
O... and just so you know Emily.. Fleischman was NEVER ARRESTED OR HAS SPENT A DAY IN JAIL OVER THIS MATTER.. After the "victim" told his "story" to the police on December 11, 2006, Fleischman received the charges BY FIRST CLASS MAIL (NOT EVEN CERTIFIED MAIL) ON SEPTEMBER 8, 2007 (sort of funny the DA's office waited until Fleischman became Chairman of the Republican Party of Brown County in APRIL OF 2007 before issuing charges)... The charges were dropped on October 29, 2007, and then right before the primary elections in February 2008, the charges again were sent to Fleischman by first class mail.. In each case, there was a THREE WEEK PERIOD from when the charges were issued, and Fleischman appeared in court.. In addition, Fleischman continued to live at the SAME ADDRESS during these ten months after the "victim" told his "story" to the police... "Pent up issues"?? You bet Emily.. I would guess if someone started lies and defaming you on web sites across the country you would have some "pent up issues" also... but just a guess.. By the way, the above are the REAL FACTS of the case...
Did you just admit to being Fleischman? Either way, I don't see how it does you/him any good to post rambling, threatening comments (or send rambling, threatening emails for that matter) about the issue. If anything, it would only hurt you/him in any future legal proceedings.
I've posted commentary on the publicly available documentation of the case, as well as references to other blogger's takes on the matter and critique of how the news media has handled it. You may find any reference whatsoever to the case to be distasteful to you, and that's your prerogative, but I would kindly ask you to cease with both the threats of frivolous lawsuits and your rampant abuse of the English language.
Thanks.
Hi again Emily! I was wondering when you going to start with the personal attacks (most "liberals" do that after being found "wrong" about something". I am not sure where I sent/posted "threatening" comments or emails too you. I was just simply showing you FACTS of the lies and defaming the "Goofticket" has done in the past. As for the "frivolous" lawsuit(s), I did not realize you were a lawyer, but "thank you" for the legal advice. I am not a lawyer either, but I am pretty sure a judge or jury decides which lawsuits are "frivolous".. Anyway, if you don't want me to post comments anymore on your blog, no problem, because, after all, this is your blog... By the way, I do not have any "issues" with you and what you write, well except the "plea/sentencing for them was push backed several times" comment. The FACT is the "plea/sentencing" hearing has NEVER been "pushed backed". Again, I ask you to PLEASE just stick to the FACTS of the case, unless you have proof to back up your statements. Thank you.
Yep, and saying that "most liberals" resort to personal attacks is a blanket statement that does nothing to bolster your cause. I'm criticizing your typing style because it's difficult to read. That's all.
Look, after this, I'm done answering your weirdly overzealous and rampant comments. I've backed up what I've written here by linking to public court and police documents, and to news stories about the subject. At this point, I'm glad the case will get its day in court, so that hopefully the matter can be settled, legally, fairly, once and for all. Whether that results in a guilty or not-guilty charge isn't up to me or to you, and nor should it be.
And FYI, the plea/sentencing hearing was pushed back before, so I'm not sure why you're contending that point.
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